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Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

I noticed the install instructions for Windows now only talks about Virtual Box. Previous instructions talked about VMWare and Virtual Box, but I found in the forums

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

that users had trouble using Virtual Box and kcrisman thought Virtual Box hadn't been supported "for a few releases". Is it now supported?

Also, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

I noticed the install instructions for Windows now only talks about Virtual Box. Previous instructions talked about VMWare and Virtual Box, but I found in the forums

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

that users had trouble using Virtual Box and kcrisman thought Virtual Box hadn't been supported "for a few releases". Is it now supported?supported? Perhaps the fact that there are instructions for Virtual Box means it is supported.

But, more importantly, is one better than the other or does it not matter?

Also, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

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Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

I noticed the This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install instructions for Windows now only talks about it for Virtual Box. Previous instructions talked There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and Virtual Box, but I found in the forums

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

that users had trouble using Virtual Box and kcrisman thought Virtual Box hadn't been supported "for a few releases". Is I have no idea how to get it now supported? Perhaps the fact that there are instructions for Virtual Box means it is supported.

But, more importantly, is one better than the other or does it not matter?

Also, to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

Update: It's been a week since I asked how to install the program. What am I supposed to do? I need help or I can't use the program. What is up?

This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install it for Virtual Box. There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and I have no idea how to get it to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

Update: It's been a week since I asked how to install the program. What am I supposed to do? I need help or I can't use the program. What is up?

Update 2: I installed Virtual Box and tried installing the file and that didn't work either! I had downloaded the 4.7 Update 1 file. Now, it doesn't exist on the website. Thus, the problem may have been with the "sage-4.7-update1" file. But of course there's no mention of anything about it or any problems with it or anything, because that might be helpful. I finally redownloaded the file (and noticed afterward that it was different) and this new file may work just fine now. In fact, it may have worked just fine with VMWare Player also, but I already uninstalled that because of the fact that I thought this process didn't work in VMWare. Hopefully Virtual Box is easier to use, as Volker mentions below, and something will come out of this mess. But, so far it doesn't seem very user-friendly at all. I am now required to input how much RAM and how many processors I have... 4 or 8 I don't know what I'm supposed to input with. I have 4, but they may be recognized as 8. I may never get this installed.

This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install it for Virtual Box. There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and I have no idea how to get it to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

Update: It's been a week since I asked how to install the program. What am I supposed to do? I need help or I can't use the program. What is up?

Update 2: I installed Virtual Box and tried installing the file and that didn't work either! I had downloaded the 4.7 Update 1 file. Now, it doesn't exist on the website. Thus, the problem may have been with the "sage-4.7-update1" file. But of course there's no mention of anything about it or any problems with it or anything, because that might be helpful. I finally redownloaded the file (and noticed afterward that it was different) and this new file may work just fine now. In fact, it may have worked just fine with VMWare Player also, but I already uninstalled that because of the fact that I thought this process didn't work in VMWare. Hopefully Virtual Box is easier to use, as Volker mentions below, and something will come out of this mess. But, so far it doesn't seem very user-friendly at all. I am now required to input how much RAM and how many processors I have... 4 or 8 I don't know what I'm supposed to input with. I have 4, but they may be recognized as 8. I may never get this installed.installed. I unaccepted Volker's answer because the correct answer is someone put up a file that didn't work, but didn't say anything about it, and that caused me a lot of problems.

This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install it for Virtual Box. There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and I have no idea how to get it to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

Update: It's been a week since I asked how to install the program. What am I supposed to do? I need help or I can't use the program. What is up?

Update 2: I installed Virtual Box and tried installing the file and that didn't work either! I had downloaded the 4.7 Update 1 file. Now, it doesn't exist on the website. Thus, the problem may have been with the "sage-4.7-update1" file. But of course there's no mention of anything about it or any problems with it or anything, because that might be helpful. I finally redownloaded the file (and noticed afterward that it was different) and this new file may work just fine now. In fact, it may have worked just fine with VMWare Player also, but I already uninstalled that because of the fact that I thought this process didn't work in VMWare. Hopefully Virtual Box is easier to use, as Volker mentions below, and something will come out of this mess. But, so far it doesn't seem very user-friendly at all. I am now required to input how much RAM and how many processors I have... 4 or 8 I don't know what I'm supposed to input with. I have 4, but they may be recognized as 8. I may never get this installed. I unaccepted Volker's answer because the correct answer is someone put up a file that didn't work, but didn't say anything about it, and that caused me a lot of problems.

Update 3: I now accept Volker's answer because Virtual Box does seem to work a lot more nicely, especially since I can easily get files from my computer without having to put them on a flash drive, then eject the flash drive, then pull up VMWare Player, then put the flash drive back in, and all that.

This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install it for Virtual Box. There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and I have no idea how to get it to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

Update: It's been a week since I asked how to install the program. What am I supposed to do? I need help or I can't use the program. What is up?

Update 2: I installed Virtual Box and tried installing the file and that didn't work either! I had downloaded the 4.7 Update 1 file. Now, it doesn't exist on the website. Thus, the problem may have been with the "sage-4.7-update1" file. But of course there's no mention of anything about it or any problems with it or anything, because that might be helpful*. I finally redownloaded the file (and noticed afterward that it was different) and this new file may work just fine now. In fact, it may have worked just It works fine with VMWare Player also, but I already uninstalled that because of the fact that I thought this process didn't work in VMWare. Hopefully Virtual Box is easier to use, as Volker mentions below, and something will come out of this mess. But, so far it doesn't seem very user-friendly at all. I am now required to input how much RAM and how many processors I have... 4 or 8 I don't know what I'm supposed to input with. I have 4, but they may be recognized as 8. I may never get this installed. I unaccepted Volker's answer because the correct answer is someone put up a file that didn't work, but didn't say anything about it, and that caused me a lot of problems.

Update 3: I now accept Volker's answer because Virtual Box does seem to work a lot more nicely, especially since I can easily get files from my computer without having to put them on a flash drive, then eject the flash drive, then pull up VMWare Player, then put the flash drive back in, and all that.now. Thanks.

This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install it for Virtual Box. There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and I have no idea how to get it to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help

Virtual (what?) when using Sage 4.7 for Windows

Update: It's been a week since I asked how to install the program. What am I supposed to do? I need help or I can't use the program. What is up?

Update 2: I installed Virtual Box and tried installing the file and that didn't work either! I had downloaded the 4.7 Update 1 file. Now, it doesn't exist on the website. Thus, the problem may have been with the "sage-4.7-update1" file. But of course there's no mention of anything about it or any problems with it or anything, because that might be helpful*. I finally redownloaded the file (and noticed afterward that it was different) and this new file may work just fine now. It works fine now. Thanks.

This question has been changed quite a bit. It's the same question but I have more info now so I say what I'm trying to ask better:

In the past, people had problems installing Sage for Windows using the Virtual Box because the instructions were out of date. In fact, the main instructions told you to use Virtual Box but didn't work. So, this caused many people headaches, more so than if they instructions had just said "Don't use Virtual Box, these instructions are out of date. Instead, use the VMWare instructions." They were out of date for somewhere around a year, or more, based on the comment (below link) from October 2010 suggesting the instructions be updated, and the fact that the instructions were just updated in the last few weeks, for Virtual Box. In fact, another comment on this same question say that there was no support for Virtual Box for quite a while.

http://ask.sagemath.org/question/158/sage-installation-on-windows

Now, the file was changed to an ova and the instructions only mention how to install it for Virtual Box. There is no mention at all about VMWare Player. If you click to download the file, you can get the VMWare Player instructions, but they are out of date, i.e., they are for the previous file type. Since the instructions only mention Virtual Box, are you telling me I now need to install Virtual Box, or are the VMWare Player instructions coming soon? I have tried installing it and I have no idea how to get it to work.

Lastly, is there some sort of general idea for when the native Windows version will be ready?

Thanks for any help