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### How to express the coefficients of an iterated group action on a basis as a matrix?

I have a basis $(b_i)_{i \in I} = (1, y_1, y_2, y_1^1, y_1y_2, y_2^2, y_1^2y_2, y_1y_2^2, y_1^2y_2^2)$, and a group action $g$ on that basis, where $g$ acts by:

$g(y_1) = y_1+1$, and $g(y_2) = y_2-y_1^2-y_1$.

For each basis element $b_i$, I want the array $(b_i, g(b_i), g^2(b_i), ..., g^8(b_i))$. I want to see the dimension of the vector space spanned by those values.

My first and foremost question is as follows: How can I get sage to put the coefficients of the array of polynomials (in a quotient ring) into columns of a matrix?

I can't seem to get sage to spit out the coefficients at all! I tried S(b_i).coefficients() and S(b_i).list(), and I got AttributeError: 'QuotientRing_generic_with_category.element_class' object has no attribute 'coefficients'

Here is my code for context:

R.<y1, y2> = PowerSeriesRing(GF(3), default_prec = 5)
I = R.ideal(y1^3, y2^3)
S = R.quotient_ring(I)
#defining the group action
g(y1) = y1 + 1
h(y2) = y2 - y1^2 - y1

#defining the basis
b1(y1,y2)= y1
b2(y1,y2)= y1^2
b3(y1,y2)= y1*y2
b4(y1,y2)= y2
b5(y1,y2)= y2^2
b6(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2
b7(y1,y2)= y1*y2^2
b8(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2^2


Secondly, how can I more concisely run the iteration itself? Here is how I implemented an iterated group action on a basis element. I list only the $b_4$ example for readability, the others are the same but with $b_i$

g1b4(y1, y2) = b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g2b4(y1, y2) = g1b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g3b4(y1, y2) = g2b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g4b4(y1, y2) = g3b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g5b4(y1, y2) = g4b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g6b4(y1, y2) = g5b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g7b4(y1, y2) = g6b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g8b4(y1, y2) = g7b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g9b4(y1, y2) = g8b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
print(S(g1b4))
print(S(g2b4))
print(S(g3b4))
print(S(g4b4))
print(S(g5b4))
print(S(g6b4))
print(S(g7b4))
print(S(g8b4))
print(S(g9b4))


### How to express the coefficients of an iterated group action on a basis as a matrix?

I have a basis $(b_i)_{i \in I} = (1, y_1, y_2, y_1^1, y_1y_2, y_2^2, y_1^2y_2, y_1y_2^2, y_1^2y_2^2)$, and a group action $g$ on that basis, where $g$ acts by:

$g(y_1) = y_1+1$, and $g(y_2) = y_2-y_1^2-y_1$.

For each basis element $b_i$, I want the array $(b_i, g(b_i), g^2(b_i), ..., g^8(b_i))$. I want to see the dimension of the vector space spanned by those values.

My first and foremost question is as follows: How can I get sage to put the coefficients of the array of polynomials (in a quotient ring) into columns of a matrix?

I can't seem to get sage to spit out the coefficients at all! I tried S(b_i).coefficients() and S(b_i).list(), and I got AttributeError: 'QuotientRing_generic_with_category.element_class' object has no attribute 'coefficients'

Here is my code for context:

R.<y1, y2> = PowerSeriesRing(GF(3), default_prec = 5)
I = R.ideal(y1^3, y2^3)
S = R.quotient_ring(I)
#defining the group action
g(y1) = y1 + 1
h(y2) = y2 - y1^2 - y1

#defining the basis
b1(y1,y2)= y1
b2(y1,y2)= y1^2
b3(y1,y2)= y1*y2
b4(y1,y2)= y2
b5(y1,y2)= y2^2
b6(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2
b7(y1,y2)= y1*y2^2
b8(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2^2


Secondly, how can I more concisely run the iteration itself? Here is how I implemented an iterated group action on a basis element. I list only the $b_4$ example for readability, the others are the same but with $b_i$

g1b4(y1, y2) = b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g2b4(y1, y2) = g1b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g3b4(y1, y2) = g2b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g4b4(y1, y2) = g3b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g5b4(y1, y2) = g4b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g6b4(y1, y2) = g5b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g7b4(y1, y2) = g6b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g8b4(y1, y2) = g7b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g9b4(y1, y2) = g8b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
print(S(g1b4))
print(S(g2b4))
print(S(g3b4))
print(S(g4b4))
print(S(g5b4))
print(S(g6b4))
print(S(g7b4))
print(S(g8b4))
print(S(g9b4))


Edit: I also realized that for $b_3$, the output of iteration has $y1^3$ in it, even though we are considering its image in the quotient ring. How could this be happening?

### How to express the coefficients of an iterated group action on a basis as a matrix?

I have a basis $(b_i)_{i \in I} = (1, y_1, y_2, y_1^1, y_1y_2, y_2^2, y_1^2y_2, y_1y_2^2, y_1^2y_2^2)$, and a group action $g$ on that basis, where $g$ acts by:

$g(y_1) = y_1+1$, and $g(y_2) = y_2-y_1^2-y_1$.

For each basis element $b_i$, I want the array $(b_i, g(b_i), g^2(b_i), ..., g^8(b_i))$. I want to see the dimension of the vector space spanned by those values.

My first and foremost question is as follows: How can I get sage to put the coefficients of the array of polynomials (in a quotient ring) into columns of a matrix?

I can't seem to get sage to spit out the coefficients at all! I tried S(b_i).coefficients() and S(b_i).list(), and I got AttributeError: 'QuotientRing_generic_with_category.element_class' object has no attribute 'coefficients'

Here is my code for context:

R.<y1, y2> = PowerSeriesRing(GF(3), default_prec = 5)
I = R.ideal(y1^3, y2^3)
S = R.quotient_ring(I)
#defining the group action
g(y1) = y1 + 1
h(y2) = y2 - y1^2 - y1

#defining the basis
b1(y1,y2)= y1
b2(y1,y2)= y1^2
b3(y1,y2)= y1*y2
b4(y1,y2)= y2
b5(y1,y2)= y2^2
b6(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2
b7(y1,y2)= y1*y2^2
b8(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2^2


Secondly, how can I more concisely run the iteration itself? Here is how I implemented an iterated group action on a basis element. I list only the $b_4$ example for readability, the others are the same but with $b_i$

g1b4(y1, y2) = b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g2b4(y1, y2) = g1b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g3b4(y1, y2) = g2b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g4b4(y1, y2) = g3b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g5b4(y1, y2) = g4b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g6b4(y1, y2) = g5b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g7b4(y1, y2) = g6b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g8b4(y1, y2) = g7b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g9b4(y1, y2) = g8b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
print(S(g1b4))
print(S(g2b4))
print(S(g3b4))
print(S(g4b4))
print(S(g5b4))
print(S(g6b4))
print(S(g7b4))
print(S(g8b4))
print(S(g9b4))


Edit: Edit: I also realized that for $b_3$, the output of iteration has $y1^3$ $y_1^3$ in it, even though we are considering its image in the quotient ring. How could this be happening?

### How to express the coefficients of an iterated group action on a basis as a matrix?

I have a basis $(b_i)_{i \in I} = (1, y_1, y_2, y_1^1, y_1y_2, y_2^2, y_1^2y_2, y_1y_2^2, y_1^2y_2^2)$, and a group action $g$ on that basis, where $g$ acts by:

$g(y_1) = y_1+1$, and $g(y_2) = y_2-y_1^2-y_1$.

For each basis element $b_i$, I want the array $(b_i, g(b_i), g^2(b_i), ..., g^8(b_i))$. I want to see the dimension of the vector space spanned by those values.

My first and foremost question is as follows: How can I get sage to put the coefficients of the array of polynomials (in a quotient ring) into columns of a matrix?

I can't seem to get sage to spit out the coefficients at all! I tried S(b_i).coefficients() and S(b_i).list(), and I got AttributeError: 'QuotientRing_generic_with_category.element_class' object has no attribute 'coefficients'

Here is my code for context:

R.<y1, y2> = PowerSeriesRing(GF(3), default_prec = 5)
I = R.ideal(y1^3, y2^3)
S = R.quotient_ring(I)
#defining the group action
g(y1) = y1 + 1
h(y2) = y2 - y1^2 - y1

#defining the basis
b1(y1,y2)= y1
b2(y1,y2)= y1^2
b3(y1,y2)= y1*y2
b4(y1,y2)= y2
b5(y1,y2)= y2^2
b6(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2
b7(y1,y2)= y1*y2^2
b8(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2^2


Secondly, how can I more concisely run the iteration itself? Here is how I implemented an iterated group action on a basis element. I list only the $b_4$ example for readability, the others are the same but with $b_i$

g1b4(y1, y2) = b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g2b4(y1, y2) = g1b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g3b4(y1, y2) = g2b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g4b4(y1, y2) = g3b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g5b4(y1, y2) = g4b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g6b4(y1, y2) = g5b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g7b4(y1, y2) = g6b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g8b4(y1, y2) = g7b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g9b4(y1, y2) = g8b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
print(S(g1b4))
print(S(g2b4))
print(S(g3b4))
print(S(g4b4))
print(S(g5b4))
print(S(g6b4))
print(S(g7b4))
print(S(g8b4))
print(S(g9b4))


Edit: I also realized that for $b_3$, the output of iteration has $y_1^3$ in it, even though we are considering its image in the quotient ring. How could this be happening?

### How to express the coefficients of an iterated group action on a basis as a matrix?

I have a basis $(b_i)_{i \in I} = (1, y_1, y_2, y_1^1, y_1^2, y_1y_2, y_2^2, y_1^2y_2, y_1y_2^2, y_1^2y_2^2)$, and a group action $g$ on that basis, where $g$ acts by:

$g(y_1) = y_1+1$, and $g(y_2) = y_2-y_1^2-y_1$.

For each basis element $b_i$, I want the array $(b_i, g(b_i), g^2(b_i), ..., g^8(b_i))$. I want to see the dimension of the vector space spanned by those values.

My first and foremost question is as follows: How can I get sage to put the coefficients of the array of polynomials (in a quotient ring) into columns of a matrix?

I can't seem to get sage to spit out the coefficients at all! I tried S(b_i).coefficients() and S(b_i).list(), and I got AttributeError: 'QuotientRing_generic_with_category.element_class' object has no attribute 'coefficients'

Here is my code for context:

R.<y1, y2> = PowerSeriesRing(GF(3), default_prec = 5)
I = R.ideal(y1^3, y2^3)
S = R.quotient_ring(I)
#defining the group action
g(y1) = y1 + 1
h(y2) = y2 - y1^2 - y1

#defining the basis
b1(y1,y2)= y1
b2(y1,y2)= y1^2
b3(y1,y2)= y1*y2
b4(y1,y2)= y2
b5(y1,y2)= y2^2
b6(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2
b7(y1,y2)= y1*y2^2
b8(y1,y2)= y1^2*y2^2


Secondly, how can I more concisely run the iteration itself? Here is how I implemented an iterated group action on a basis element. I list only the $b_4$ example for readability, the others are the same but with $b_i$

g1b4(y1, y2) = b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g2b4(y1, y2) = g1b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g3b4(y1, y2) = g2b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g4b4(y1, y2) = g3b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g5b4(y1, y2) = g4b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g6b4(y1, y2) = g5b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g7b4(y1, y2) = g6b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g8b4(y1, y2) = g7b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
g9b4(y1, y2) = g8b4(g(y1), h(y2)).expand()
print(S(g1b4))
print(S(g2b4))
print(S(g3b4))
print(S(g4b4))
print(S(g5b4))
print(S(g6b4))
print(S(g7b4))
print(S(g8b4))
print(S(g9b4))


Edit: I also realized that for $b_3$, the output of iteration has $y_1^3$ in it, even though we are considering its image in the quotient ring. How could this be happening?