# sage 5.3: no object "simplify_full" currently defined

I compiled sage 5.3 from source, everything was successful. So far I have not installed any of the optional packages. However, I cannot find any of the specific simplify-functions. (Error message: "no object 'simplify_full()' currently defined") The only thing I am able to use is `simplify()`

. Am I missing something?

Edit to answer SLOtoSF profound question, "what have you tried":

- Autocompletion
- "sage> simplify?"
- reference documentation
- google search (e.g., "sage 5.3 simplify_full", "no object 'simplify_full()' currently defined" ...)
- asksage search "simplify_full" and "full_simplify"
- don't remember what else...

What have you tried?

Some information on the system and hardware could be useful, though I doubt it. Can you also try starting Sage's Maxima, i.e. do `maxima_console()` in the command line. Also, you could try `sage -t devel/sage/sage/symbolic/expression.pyx` to test places where this is used and see if you get the same error in the doctest framework. Just some ideas for helping debug this.