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How to call a constant polynomial with lift()?

asked 2020-12-12 19:33:48 +0200

updated 2020-12-12 21:52:35 +0200

I am trying to call a constant polynomial with lift(), but I get an error. The following is a minimal example of my input that produces an error:

sage: A.<x, y> = PolynomialRing(CC, 2, order='degrevlex')
sage: I = A.ideal([x + y, x + y + 1])
sage: A(1).lift(I)

When I input a non-constant polynomial (say, f = (x+y)^2), Sage executes lift(I) as expected. I only get an error for constant polynomials like A(1).

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Note that CC is Complex Field with 53 bits of precision, so this "field" consisting of floating point approximations is generally unsuitable for exact algebraic applications like Gröbner bases and the division algorithm (which are used here). Often you can reduce your problem to a computation over a number field and/or over $\mathbb{Q}$.

rburing gravatar imagerburing ( 2020-12-12 22:16:59 +0200 )edit

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answered 2020-12-12 21:54:48 +0200

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updated 2020-12-12 21:59:49 +0200

Since 1 does not belong to the ideal, it is not possible to express 1 as a linear combination (with polynomial coefficients) of the generators of the ideal (which is what lift tries to do).

So lift correctly gives an error; it even provides the reason.

Edit (after the generators were changed): you should work over a field with exact arithmetic, such as the smallest field that contains the coefficients of your polynomials; in this case you can work over QQ:

sage: A.<x, y> = PolynomialRing(QQ, 2, order='degrevlex')
sage: I = A.ideal([x + y, x + y + 1])
sage: A(1).lift(I)
[-1, 1]

This result implies the result over $\mathbb{C}$.

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