# how to get the coefficient of a multivariate polynomial with respect to a specific variable and degree, in a quotient ring ?

Here is what I tried.

sage: F = ZZ.quo(3*ZZ); F
sage: A.<X, Y, Z> = PolynomialRing(F); A
sage: R.<x, y, z> = A.quotient(ideal(X^2 - 1, Y^2 - 1, Z^2 - 1))
sage: f = x*z + x*y*z + y + 1
sage: f.coefficient(z, 1)
sage: f.coefficient({z: 1})
sage: f.coeffcient(z)

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The instructions above, containing "coefficient" do not work. Sage (ver. 9.0 and the online ver. 9.1) return errors, saying that "QuotientRing_generic_with_category.element_class' object has no attribute 'coefficients'"

( 2020-07-21 10:48:36 +0200 )edit

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## Clarifying the question

If I understand correctly, the question is to extract not the coefficient of the monomial z (which would be zero in this case), but the coefficient of z when this is seen as a polynomial in z with coefficients in polynomials in x and y.

In other words the expected answer here is x*y + x.

Note that in Sage's symbolic ring, if a symbolic expression is a polynomial in one of the symbolic variables, then we can extract the coefficient as follows:

sage: x, y, z = SR.var('x, y, z')
sage: f = x*z + x*y*z + y + 1; f
x*y*z + x*z + y + 1
sage: f.coefficient(z, 1)
x*y + x


The question is how to do that when instead of a symbolic expression in Sage's symbolic ring, our f is an element in the quotient of a polynomial ring in three variables modulo an ideal.

## Setup

We reproduce the setup from the question with some variations, see notes below.

Define the field with three elements:

sage: K = GF(3); K
Finite Field of size 3


Define a polynomial ring in three variables:

sage: A.<X, Y, Z> = PolynomialRing(K); A
Multivariate Polynomial Ring in X, Y, Z
over Finite Field of size 3


Define an ideal in this polynomial ring:

sage: J = A.ideal(X^2 - 1, Y^2 - 1, Z^2 - 1)
Ideal (X^2 - 1, Y^2 - 1, Z^2 - 1)
of Multivariate Polynomial Ring in X, Y, Z
over Finite Field of size 3


Define the quotient ring:

sage: R.<x, y, z> = A.quotient(J); R
Quotient of
Multivariate Polynomial Ring in X, Y, Z
over Finite Field of size 3
by the ideal (X^2 - 1, Y^2 - 1, Z^2 - 1)


Define an element in the quotient ring:

sage: f = x*z + x*y*z + y + 1; f
x*y*z + x*z + y + 1


## Coefficient of z using polynomial rings

Lift to the polynomial ring:

sage: F = f.lift(); F
X*Y*Z + X*Z + Y + 1


Define ring of polynomials in Z with coefficients in polynomials in X and Y over K:

sage: B = K[('X', 'Y')]['Z']; B
Univariate Polynomial Ring in Z
over Multivariate Polynomial Ring in X, Y
over Finite Field of size 3


See F as that kind of polynomial:

sage: G = B(F); G
(X*Y + X)*Z + Y + 1


Coefficient of Z:

sage: D = G[1]; D
X*Y + X


Map back to polynomials in three variables:

sage: C = A(D); C
X*Y + X


Project down to the quotient ring:

sage: c = R(C); c
x*y + x


Note that this is an element in R; we might prefer an element in the quotient ring $K[X, Y] / (X^2 - 1, Y^2 - 1)$. This is left as an exercise.

## Using strings and the symbolic ring

We describe a different way to obtain the answer, using strings and the symbolic ring.

Lift to the polynomial ring:

sage: F = f.lift(); F
X*Y*Z + X*Z + Y + 1


Extract coefficient of (the symbolic variable) Z:

sage: C_SR = SR(str(F)).coefficient(SR('Z'), 1); C_SR
X*Y + X


Back to the polynomial ring:

sage: C = A(str(c_SR)); C
X*Y + X


Project to the quotient: sage: c = R(C); c x*y + x

## Some notes

### Integers modulo three vs the field with three elements

In Sage one gets different objects depending whether we construct the ring $\mathbb{Z}/3\mathbb{Z}$ or the field with three elements.

Here are four ways to construct the ring

sage: k = Zmod(3)
sage: k = Integers(3)
sage: k = IntegerModRing(3)
sage: k = ZZ.quo(3*ZZ)


All give the same result:

sage: k
Ring of integers modulo 3


Here are two ways to construct the field:

sage: K = FiniteField(3)
sage: K = GF(3)


Both give the same result:

sage: K
Finite Field of size 3


Although one can ask Sage whether k is a field, and it will say yes, Sage does not consider k and K as equal, and the arithmetic in them is not implemented the same way.

sage: k.is_field()
True
sage: k == K
False


When computing with a field, it is recommended to define it using FiniteField or GF, since this will take better advantage of finite field arithmetic.

### Wishlist

While A can convert a string:

sage: A('X*Y*Z + X*Z + Y + 1')
X*Y*Z + X*Z + Y + 1


it is not the case of the quotient ring R:

sage: R('x*y*z + x*z + y + 1')
Traceback (most recent call last)
...
NameError: name 'x' is not defined
During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred:
Traceback (most recent call last)
...
TypeError: Could not find a mapping of the passed element to this ring.


It would be nice if one could get:

sage: R('x*y*z + x*z + y + 1')
x*y*z + x*z + y + 1

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Many thanks for your responses, they are very interesting and will be subjects of studies !

( 2020-07-21 18:49:31 +0200 )edit