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Inconsistentency in parent of specialization of a polynomial?

I have a family of polynomials and I want to consider special members of this family. In other words I'm considering polynomials in a ring $R = K[x]$ where $K = \mathbb{Q}[t]$. In sage I do the following:

K = PolynomialRing(QQ, ["t"])                                                                            
R = PolynomialRing(K, ["x"])                                                                             

t = K.gen(0)                                                                                             
x = R.gen(0)                                                                                             

f = (t**2 - QQ(1/10)*t + 1)*x**2 + (QQ(3/4)*t + QQ(7/2))*x - t + 8                                       
f1 = f.specialization({t: 1})

This works fine and as expected $f_1$ is a polynomial only in $x$:

f1.parent() == QQ["x"] # True

Now I want to do exactly the same but over $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ instead:

L = PolynomialRing(QQbar, ["t"])                                                                         
S = PolynomialRing(L, ["x"])                                                                             

t = L.gen(0)                                                                                             
x = S.gen(0)                                                                                             

g = (t**2 - QQ(1/10)*t + 1)*x**2 + (QQ(3/4)*t + QQ(7/2))*x - t + 8                                       
g1 = g.specialization({t: 1})

I would expect $g_1$ to be a polynomial only in $x$ as above, i.e. I would expect $g_1 \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}}[x]$. However, I get:

g1.parent() == QQbar["x"] # False
g1.parent() == S # True

Is this a bug? Or am I misunderstanding something?

Inconsistentency in parent of specialization of a polynomial?

I have a family of polynomials and I want to consider special members of this family. In other words I'm considering polynomials in a ring $R = K[x]$ where $K = \mathbb{Q}[t]$. In sage I do the following:

K = PolynomialRing(QQ, ["t"])                                                                            
["t"])
R = PolynomialRing(K, ["x"])                                                                             
["x"])

t = K.gen(0)                                                                                             
x = R.gen(0)                                                                                             

f = (t**2 - QQ(1/10)*t + 1)*x**2 + (QQ(3/4)*t + QQ(7/2))*x - t + 8                                       
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f1 = f.specialization({t: 1})

This works fine and as expected $f_1$ is a polynomial only in $x$:

f1.parent() == QQ["x"] # True

Now I want to do exactly the same but over $\overline{\mathbb{Q}}$ instead:

L = PolynomialRing(QQbar, ["t"])                                                                         
["t"])
S = PolynomialRing(L, ["x"])                                                                             
["x"])

t = L.gen(0)                                                                                             
L.gen(0)
x = S.gen(0)                                                                                             
S.gen(0)

g = (t**2 - QQ(1/10)*t + 1)*x**2 + (QQ(3/4)*t + QQ(7/2))*x - t + 8                                       
8
g1 = g.specialization({t: 1})

I would expect $g_1$ to be a polynomial only in $x$ as above, i.e. I would expect $g_1 \in \overline{\mathbb{Q}}[x]$. However, I get:

g1.parent() == QQbar["x"] # False
g1.parent() == S # True

Is this a bug? Or am I misunderstanding something?