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Rational maps for a composed isogeny

asked 2023-08-17 16:19:05 +0100

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updated 2023-08-21 11:51:59 +0100

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Suppose

  • $E$ is an elliptic curve on a field of charesteristic 101,
  • $\phi_1$ an isogeny of $E$ to $E_1$
  • $\phi_2$ an isogeny of $E_1$ to $E_2$,
  • $\phi = \phi_2*\phi_1$.

How can i get rational maps of the composed isogeny $\phi$ using Sage?

I tried:

f = phi3 * phi2 * phi 
f.rational_maps()

error:

'sage.categories.map.FormalCompositeMap' object has no attribute 'rational_maps'
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Well, posting as Anonymous has its down-sides...

dan_fulea gravatar imagedan_fulea ( 2023-08-18 22:17:50 +0100 )edit

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answered 2023-08-18 22:25:44 +0100

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I tried:

F = GF(101)

E0 = EllipticCurve(F, [5, 9])
f01 = E0.isogenies_prime_degree(2)[0]

E1 = f01.codomain()
f12 = f12 = E1.isogenies_prime_degree(7)[0]

E2 = f12.codomain()

So we have the situation: $$ E_0 \overset{f_{01}}\longrightarrow E_1 \overset{f_{12}}\longrightarrow E_2\ . $$ Now we define the composition $f_{02}$, by pre-composing $f_{12}$ with $f_{01}$, and ask for its rational maps...

sage: f02 = f12.pre_compose(f01)
sage: f02.rational_maps()
((36*x^14 + 45*x^13 - 39*x^12 - 7*x^11 - 20*x^10 + 6*x^9 + 26*x^8 + 47*x^7 + 18*x^6 - 33*x^5 - 44*x^4 - 41*x^3 + 9*x^2 - x + 38)/(x^13 - 24*x^12 + 7*x^11 + 45*x^10 - x^9 + 40*x^8 + 3*x^7 - 23*x^6 + 24*x^5 + 42*x^4 - 42*x^3 - 32*x^2 + 9*x - 34),
 (-6*x^20*y + 5*x^18*y + 36*x^17*y - 6*x^16*y - 20*x^15*y + 25*x^14*y - 5*x^13*y + 46*x^12*y + 40*x^11*y + 28*x^10*y + 29*x^9*y + 41*x^8*y + 14*x^7*y - 28*x^6*y + 44*x^5*y - 43*x^4*y + 29*x^3*y + 28*x^2*y - 35*x*y - 31*y)/(-14*x^20 + 7*x^18 - 8*x^17 - 46*x^16 - 9*x^15 - 13*x^14 + 39*x^13 - 9*x^12 + 21*x^11 - 14*x^10 - 8*x^9 + 46*x^8 - 3*x^7 - 22*x^6 - 16*x^5 + 12*x^4 + 34*x^3 - 10*x^2 + 26*x + 4))

Alternatively, we can post-compose...

sage: f12.pre_compose(f01) == f01.post_compose(f12)
True
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answered 2024-02-05 13:55:42 +0100

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Starting from Sage 9.8, writing f.rational_maps() just works.

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