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Which subgroups do conjugacy_classes_subgroups() return

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Starting with a group G and subgroup H (up to conjugacy), my task is to find all subgroups (up to conjugacy) that contains H.

  1. Do the subgroups returned by conjugacy_classes_subgroups() satisfy the property that if K and L are two of the returned subgroups such that a conjugate of K is a subgroup of L, then K is a subgroup of L (we can construct a lattice from the subgroups returned)

  2. If not, what will be the most optimal way to do this? My current algorithm checks if any conjugate of H is a subgroup of the list returned in conjugacy_classes_subgroups().

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answered 4 years ago

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  1. The method calls GAP's ConjugacyClassesSubgroups to get the conjugacy classes and then GAP's Representative to get a representative of each. This does not have the property you want. For example SymmetricGroup(4).conjugacy_classes_subgroups() includes both K=(1,3)(2,4) and L=(3,4),(1,2)(3,4) where a conjugate of K is a subgroup of L but K is not a subgroup of L.

    See symmetric group: get back conjugacy class from its generators if you want the actual conjugacy classes as GAP objects; you will be able to call the methods Representative() and AsList() on them, and on each subgroup you can also call IsSubgroup(H).

  2. I am not a group theorist but your algorithm seems fine to me.

Edit: Maybe I don't have to tell you this but, caveat: being conjugate in a subgroup is a stronger requirement than being conjugate in the full group (because there are fewer elements to conjugate by).

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Thank you! That is very helpful.

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