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limit of function with dirac delta

asked 2017-03-09 05:15:01 -0500

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Consider the following code:

f = (1-x) * sage.unit_step(x)
df = f.diff(x)    ->    -unit_step(x) + (1-x)*dirac_delta(x)

Trying to compute df.limit(x=0, dir="right"), which should return -1, but instead returns limit(-unit_step(x) + (1-x)*dirac_delta(x), x, 0, plus).

Even df.limit(x=0.5) return limit(-unit_step(x) + (1-x)*dirac_delta(x), x, 0.5) instead of -1.

Any idea on what might be going on? Thanks!

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My guess is that Maxima doesn't know how to take limits of these functions.

kcrisman gravatar imagekcrisman ( 2017-03-09 07:50:09 -0500 )edit

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answered 2017-03-09 15:09:05 -0500

updated 2017-03-09 16:28:59 -0500

To expand on the comment by @kcrisman, limits are sent to Maxima by default. Maxima can evaluate the limit of the step function: entering


returns 1 as expected. Maxima cannot evaluate the limit of the Dirac delta: entering


returns an unevaluated expression. Since part of your limit cannot be evaluated by Maxima, it all comes back unevaluated.

The other option for limit evaluation is to set algorithm='sympy': entering


returns zero as expected. Unfortunately, entering


gives the message

sympy does not support one-sided limits

Even more problematic, entering


gives the message

SymPy function 'unit_step' doesn't exist

so SymPy won't get the complete job done either.

Not exactly the answer you want, but hopefully it helps you understand what's happening.

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the existence problem can probably be fixed by setting a custom "conversion" dictionary in src/sage/functions/

mforets gravatar imagemforets ( 2017-03-10 00:54:15 -0500 )edit

the problem is that there is really no such UnitStep function in SymPy. Here it says that it's possible to define it at $0$ passing a 2nd argument. see also in github. But in my local sage installation, it doesn't work; don't know if it's because of a difference in the SymPy versions..

mforets gravatar imagemforets ( 2017-03-10 06:04:50 -0500 )edit

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