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ratio of integers

asked 2013-08-14 08:01:23 +0200

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the output of this

for n in range (1,d):
    print n,d,n/d

is correctly

1 3 1/3
2 3 2/3

on the other hand, the output of this

for d in range(2,4):
    for n in range(1,d):
        print n,d,n/d


1 2 0
1 3 0
2 3 0

why, in this case, is the ratio n/d always zero?

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answered 2013-08-14 09:07:01 +0200

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I would say that it is because


does not return the same thing in the two cases. There are different forms of integers in Sage, and it can be tricky from time to time : there are for instance "python" integers (i.e. int(6)) and Sage integers (i.e. Integer(6)).

The range function, in particular, only returns Python integers

sage: int(9)/int(4)

While you probably want to use Sage integers instead, which knows when they should consider themselves as rational numbers

sage: Integer(9)/Integer(4)

Sooooooo if you want to change your code a bit, I would say that you can fix it by replacing {{{range(something)}}} by {{{srange(something)}}}. srange returns Sage integers :-)

sage: map(type,range(4))
[int, int, int, int]
sage: map(type,srange(4))


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answered 2013-08-14 09:20:22 +0200

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Using print n,d,type(n/d), I am seeing that in the first case, Sage treats the values in sage.rings.rational.Rational and so you get the output you want. In the second case, Sage treats the values as integers and so the division gives the integer quotient.

What I don't know is why Sage is making these particular interpretations in these cases. Perhaps others can give us an idea of why this is happening.

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