ASKSAGE: Sage Q&A Forum - RSS feedhttps://ask.sagemath.org/questions/Q&A Forum for SageenCopyright Sage, 2010. Some rights reserved under creative commons license.Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:57:53 +0200How to propose a major change of SageMath?https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/Hello.
I use a scientific graphics library called [MathGL](http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html) to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.
I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.
Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.
Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?
Thanks in advance for you answers!
[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]Mon, 15 Apr 2019 04:14:06 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/Comment by eric_g for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46175#post-id-46175Why couldn't you access to the sage-devel Google group? This would be the good place to discuss this.Mon, 15 Apr 2019 11:09:43 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46175#post-id-46175Comment by eric_g for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46176#post-id-46176It would probably be nice to have MathGL as an (optional) graphical interface in Sage.Mon, 15 Apr 2019 13:23:45 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46176#post-id-46176Comment by Iguananaut for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46179#post-id-46179For that matter I would also like to see matplotlib added as a backend for 3D graphics. Feel free to add more 3D graphics backends--most of the existing ones are rather crufty and outdated and not modern.Mon, 15 Apr 2019 14:34:43 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46179#post-id-46179Comment by dsejas for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46191#post-id-46191Hello.
Concerning @eric_g's question, apparently sage-devel is an invitation-only group. I could access the group with my Google account, but I couldn't post anything.
Concerning @Iguananut's comment, I agree. I think SageMath could use a more modern graphics backend.
Perhaps I could do it myself, but I am not that experienced with Sage yet. Maybe in the near future.
Anyway, thanks for your comments.Mon, 15 Apr 2019 18:17:33 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46191#post-id-46191Comment by dsejas for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46206#post-id-46206Should I close this question since it is not useful and misleading? Or maybe delete it? Does somebody know what implies each of these actions?Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:20:15 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46206#post-id-46206Comment by slelievre for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46211#post-id-46211The problems posting to sage-devel might be related to Google's recent changes to Google groups, introducing limits for large groups, see for instance [this discussion](https://groups.google.com/a/isocpp.org/forum/m/#!msg/sg14/FZEWCOSyFlk/MFUXyq1YDAAJ).Tue, 16 Apr 2019 07:57:53 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46211#post-id-46211Answer by John Palmieri for <p>Hello.</p>
<p>I use a scientific graphics library called <a href="http://mathgl.sourceforge.net/doc_en/Main.html">MathGL</a> to create my plots in Fortran, C/C++ and other languages, even SageMath. It has the advantage of being able to create more advanced 3D graphics than Matplotlib, besides being really faster. However, SageMath has no support for this library, so I have to use really non-elegant and cumbersome solutions to make my plots with SageMath and MathGL.</p>
<p>I would like to propose the Sage developers to add support for this library, but I couldn't access the sage-devel Google Group, and I don't know how to contact the developers.</p>
<p>Just to be clear, I don't want to replace the current graphics mechanism, just propose a new optional package for SageMath.</p>
<p>Since this would be a major addition and change in SageMath, I suppose I should take special steps (?). Can somebody guide me to the adequate conduit for these kind of proposals?</p>
<p>Thanks in advance for you answers!</p>
<p>[Edit to the original question: Apparently, I made a mistake when trying to access sage-devel, or maybe there was an error while trying to login, but sage-devel is completely accessible. Sorry for the misleading question.]</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?answer=46198#post-id-46198The short answer to your question is in the [Sage tutorial]( http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/tutorial/afterword.html#i-would-like-to-contribute-somehow-how-can-i). The longer version is to get access to sage-devel (is it really invitation-only?) and to look at the [Sage developer's guide](http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/index.html), in particular the part on [packaging third-party code](http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/packaging.html).Mon, 15 Apr 2019 22:10:45 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?answer=46198#post-id-46198Comment by dsejas for <p>The short answer to your question is in the <a href="http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/tutorial/afterword.html#i-would-like-to-contribute-somehow-how-can-i">Sage tutorial</a>. The longer version is to get access to sage-devel (is it really invitation-only?) and to look at the <a href="http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/index.html">Sage developer's guide</a>, in particular the part on <a href="http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/packaging.html">packaging third-party code</a>.</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46202#post-id-46202Hello. As it turns out, sage-devel is not invitation-only. I am so sorry. Last week I tried to access twice (?), but I got a message telling me I don have permissions to post there. i think I will edit my original question, so that it doesn't misleads anybody.
Anyway, thank you for leading me to the resources, specially the developers guide.Tue, 16 Apr 2019 00:04:39 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46202#post-id-46202Comment by John Palmieri for <p>The short answer to your question is in the <a href="http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/tutorial/afterword.html#i-would-like-to-contribute-somehow-how-can-i">Sage tutorial</a>. The longer version is to get access to sage-devel (is it really invitation-only?) and to look at the <a href="http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/index.html">Sage developer's guide</a>, in particular the part on <a href="http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/developer/packaging.html">packaging third-party code</a>.</p>
https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46204#post-id-46204No need to apologize. Please post your ideas there and see what feedback you get.Tue, 16 Apr 2019 05:06:33 +0200https://ask.sagemath.org/question/46171/how-to-propose-a-major-change-of-sagemath/?comment=46204#post-id-46204