Making my own special type of variable

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I want to create an object that I can take formal products and sums of, and also that remembers some extra data. I'd like to use sage's symbolic tools to do it without reimplementing multiplication, etc. For example, I'd like to make a class myVar that behaves something like this:

sage: a = myVar("some data about a")
sage: b = myVar("other important stuff")
sage: p = ((a + b)^2).expand()
a^2 + 2*a*b + b^2

sage: p.operands()
[a^2, 2a*b, b^2]

sage: p.operands()[0].operands[0]
a

sage: p.operands()[0].operands[0].get_data()
"some data about a"

I've tried subclassing Expression, but it seems like whenever I try to do some sums or products it just turns my thing into an Expression and forgets that it was a myVar.

Is something like this possible in sage?

asked May 11 '11

paragon gravatar image paragon
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updated May 12 '11

Kelvin Li gravatar image Kelvin Li
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I think my syntax is probably bad in the example-- I need to be more careful about the variable names, probably, but I hope it is clear what I am trying to do. paragon (May 11 '11)

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You can't solve your problem by subclassing Expression, this requires you to assign data to every expression. Whats the data associated to the Expression a+b?

Since you only want to associate something to variables, you can just use a dictionary:

sage: var('a, b')
(a, b)
mydata = { a:'foo', b:'bar' }
sage: p = ((a + b)^2).expand()
a^2 + 2*a*b + b^2
sage: p.operands()[0].operands()[0]
a
sage: mydata[_]
'foo'
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posted May 12 '11

Volker Braun gravatar image Volker Braun
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I have thought about using a dictionary, but it is kind of awkward when I want to pass these things into functions and between modules, and also I sometimes want variables with the same name but different data. paragon (May 21 '11)
Also, I am ok if a+b is just an Expression, I just want to be able to extract 'a' using operands() and then get a myVar object out. paragon (May 21 '11)
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This is not a complete answer, but here are some useful methods of the symbolic ring and elements for retrieving wrapped python objects:

sage: a=SR(Mod(8,3))
sage: a
2
sage: type(a)
<type 'sage.symbolic.expression.Expression'>
sage: type(a.pyobject())
<type 'sage.rings.finite_rings.integer_mod.IntegerMod_int'>
sage: b=SR._force_pyobject('test')
sage: b
'test'
sage: type(b)
<type 'sage.symbolic.expression.Expression'>
sage: type(b.pyobject())
<type 'str'>
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posted May 11 '11

Jason Grout gravatar image Jason Grout
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This is along the lines of what I want, but if I force my object into SR, then I can't add them together because the addition is not defined for them. I want to just inherit the addition and multiplication of the Symbolic Ring somehow without reimplementing. paragon (May 21 '11)

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